Breastfeeding and
"Discretion Requested"
2002 July, from Barb Strange of
BACE (Breastfeeding Action Committee of
Edmonton)
The words below were originally messages sent to LACTNET
on July 17, 2002. We hope that you read all three parts, for
there is much insight here, whether you are interested in
breastfeeding, topfreedom, or both.
PART I analyzes the notion of "discreet" and what its
insidious results are. It also makes the connection between
breastfeeding and topfreedom, as does PART II, which
contains important quotations from women on the subject.
PART III describes how the city of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
switched its policy from being inimical towards
breastfeeding to the opposite.
Anyone who has ever heard that a woman may be topfree
only if she is breastfeeding---the law in many American
jurisdictions in particular---should pay particular
attention to these comments and analyses.
PART I: Discretion Requested
On July 11th, Debbie wrote in regard to Disneyland, "I
gather that discreet moms don't have much trouble, but those
who are less than discreet could easily be told to go to the
Baby Station . . . In the past, I have had two mothers
report difficulties in Disney Stores, although I might add
that one of them decided to sit right in front of a
cashier's desk (I usually say that discretion is an
issue)."
Although I don't wish to be confrontational, I am
bothered by this and would like to address it. What is wrong
with sitting in front of the cashier's desk to nurse? To
whom is it that you are saying that "discretion is an
issue"? Who is it an issue for? I don't mean to be coy; it's
just that I'm really not sure what you are trying to say.
It's OK to nurse at Disneyland, but it's not OK or not
prudent to do it in front of the cashiers? Why would that be
any different from anywhere else? And if you are "less than
discreet", you shouldn't be surprised if someone tells you
to go to the Baby Station?
I think by adopting the language of discretion, e. g.
assuring people that we are discreet when we nurse in
public, reassuring others that most nursing moms are
discreet, anyway, subtly (or perhaps not so subtly) warning
new moms that they need to be "discreet" if they don't want
to have problems nursing in public, or even teaching moms
how they may go about nursing "discreetly"---we are
reinforcing the notion that it's OK to nurse in public, but
only as long as certain codes of conduct or rules are
followed. The message seems to be, go ahead and nurse, but
be sure that you are "discreet" and expect trouble if you
aren't.
What constitutes being "discreet" anyway? What about the
mom with a fussy new baby who doesn't always latch on right
away, the "moving target" kind of baby? Is mom failing to be
discreet if she doesn't get the baby latched on quickly
enough for others' liking? What about the mom who doesn't
quite get the clothes and the baby all arranged just so
right away? What about the situation with an older baby keen
to look around and see what's going on, who will repeatedly
come off the breast to check things out, then go back to her
"snack"? And the baby or toddler who hates to be covered
with a blanket or likes to lift mom's top? What about the
baby who wants to nurse while mom's in the swimming pool?
And what if, horrors, the mom believes that breasts are for
breastfeeding and nothing to be ashamed of, and doesn't even
try to cover up while nursing?
All of these women, from the inexperienced, flustered new
mom struggling to latch and cover up at the same time, to
the proud, experienced mom who carries on, taking no notice
of others, could be accused of not being "discreet". I think
this is a word that others use to keep us in line and which
we must avoid using if we want to empower women to
breastfeed.
Last year I was asked not to nurse my one and a half year
old son in one of our city swimming pools, a request I took
great exception to. I will talk more about that in PART III,
but for now I will say that after this incident, I did a lot
of research and found out that incidents where women have
been asked not to breastfeed in public, or have been asked
to breastfeed more "discreetly," are more common than I had
thought. I also found quite a number of studies of women's
attitudes towards and experiences with breastfeeding; many
of them indicate that breastfeeding in front of others, even
within the home, is a significant issue.
For example, a 1995 Health Canada study found that most
mothers who discontinued breastfeeding before four months
"remained housebound or restricted in their movement while
breastfeeding" to avoid the social stigma associated with
nursing in public. A 1991 Chicago study found that 55% of
women who had chosen to bottle-feed gave reasons for not
breastfeeding such as embarrassment and not feeling
comfortable with breastfeeding. In one study, fathers taking
childbirth classes in five private hospitals in Houston were
surveyed on their attitudes towards breastfeeding.
Seventy-one percent of the men whose spouses were planning
to exclusively breastfeed and 78% of the men whose spouses
were planning to exclusively formula-feed indicated that
breastfeeding was "not acceptable in public". Still other
studies show that the attitude of the mother's partner is an
important part of her feeding decision. This is only some of
the research in this area. There are also numerous
"breastfeeding shaming" cases to be found on the Internet,
including on LACTNET.
Our choice of language is important. Just as I
think we need to talk in terms of the normalcy of
breastfeeding and the inferiority of its artificial
substitute wherever we can, I think we also need to watch
our language when speaking with others about breastfeeding
in public. In particular, we might want to rethink our
well-meaning advice to new mothers who ask about "how to
breastfeed discreetly in public." Although we will probably
give tips when asked, such as "feed baby before he/she is
frantic" and so on, we can also gently introduce the idea
that any onlookers' discomfort with breastfeeding is really
their own problem. We can also say that unless people are
around nursing moms in their daily lives, they don't tend to
notice moms breastfeeding, which I believe is true. It's
just not on the radar of the average person, for the most
part. And we can avoid using the "D" word.
Although there are jurisdictions where breastfeeding in
public might technically be illegal, I don't know of any
cases where women breastfeeding have been convicted, let
alone charged with indecent exposure or public nudity. Does
anyone know differently? On the contrary, interfering with a
woman breastfeeding may itself be illegal. Even in
jurisdictions which haven't enacted laws specifically
protecting a woman's right to breastfeed in public, their
human rights statutes invariably include sex as a prohibited
form of discrimination. There is Canadian case law (courts,
employment tribunals, human rights tribunals, etc.)---and
I'm willing to bet US as well---saying that discrimination
on the basis of pregnancy and/or breastfeeding constitutes
sex discrimination. My point here is that women
breastfeeding need not fear the law; indeed, it is their
harassers who should.
Informing women of their civil rights in this regard
shouldn't be necessary, but it is. One of the women in our
breastfeeding advocacy group thought it was illegal to
breastfeed at a public swimming pool (more on that later).
She was relieved, obviously, to find out that this is not
so. Good for her that she breastfed anyway, but not so good
for others who are too intimidated to do so.
I look forward to the day when women are able to freely
remove their tops wherever and whenever men are free to do
so. I say this not because I have a burning desire to bare
my breasts in public. As a small-breasted woman who has
internalized (North American) society's norms valuing large
breasts and devaluing small ones, I have no desire to reveal
my breasts to others; and as a citizen of a rather
northerly, cold climate, there are only a few weeks a year
where it might be possible to go topfree even if I did want
to!
Nevertheless, I look forward to that day because I think
it will represent another step away from repressive
attitudes towards women's bodies, especially our breasts. If
fully naked breasts in all their shapes and sizes became
something you could see anywhere, anytime, as the breast
became de-eroticized (except perhaps in private between
mutually inclined and consenting adults), breastfeeding in
public would cease to be an issue, and no longer would
anyone have to say that "discretion is an issue". For this
reason, I applaud "topfree activists," although I do not
have the courage to join them. For example, see www.tera.ca.
A 1992 New York state court decision quoted on that site
says, in part:
"[Defendants] contend that to the extent that
many in our society may regard the uncovered female breast
with a prurient interest that is not similarly aroused by
the male equivalent, that perception cannot serve as a
justification for differential treatment, because it is
itself a suspect cultural artifact rooted in centuries of
prejudice and bias toward women."
Hear, hear, Judge Titone! See also "Breastfeeding
Frenzy" and on the same site, "My
Breasts Reclaimed," another breastfeeding-in-public
story.
PART II: Words of Wisdom from LACTNETTERS
I suspect most women faced with "requests" to hide their
breastfeeding are simply too embarrassed to question or to
assert their rights. I also suspect they do a lot less
breastfeeding in public because of these social barriers,
some of which are real and some of which are probably only
perceived. But perceived or not, they are still barriers. I
was always one to do just as I pleased when I breastfed my
kids, in public or otherwise, but not every woman has the
social support or confidence to do that.
On this subject I can do no better than quote a few
posters from the past.
Katherine Dettwyler, May 1996
(peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exeA2=ind9605D&L=lactnet&P=R5799&I=-3):
In my humble opinion (as always), we have to take the
stance that breasts are perfectly normal, standard body
parts, designed for feeding babies. The more people are
"exposed" to breasts in this context, the more it will come
to seem perfectly normal and natural to them, and breasts
will lose their artificial, sexual connotations. If we
continue to act as though breasts are primarily sex
objects, to be kept hidden and out of sight except when
absolutely necessary for feeding a baby (or for use in
selling beer or cars or sex), then we'll never see the day
when breastfeeding is accepted as normal and natural, and
many women will never be able to feel comfortable nursing in
public.
Katherine Dettwyler, November 1997
(peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9711C&L=lactnet&P=R1591&I=-3&m=38957):
When women stop being discreet about breastfeeding, then
society will change, and disgust/over-nosiness about
breastfeeding will be a thing of the past.
Katherine Dettwyler, July 2000
(peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0007A&L=lactnet&P=R10807&I=-3&m=86117):
. . . caring more about the feelings of those who are
offended by something natural and good than about the person
who is doing the natural and good thing is the same,
logically, as caring more about the feelings of people who
are racist or sexist or who think handicapped people should
be hidden away.
Diane Mulonas, May 1996
(peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9605D&L=lactnet&P=R6332&I=-3):
I believe the only way to change how people view
breastfeeding is to change how society sees breasts.
Mary Broadfoot, May 1996
(peach.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9605E&L=lactnet&P=R4401&I=-3):
. . . if you start to talk in terms of not objecting if
"a woman's breast is exposed briefly or to the extent it
needs to be exposed to feed the child," you are making life
difficult or impossible for women. What was necessary for me
when I was feeding my baby is different from what was
necessary when I was feeding my toddler, and was
different from what was necessary for my friend, and
even more so for my friend who nursed her twins
simultaneously, and didn't have time or the inclination (and
why should she?) to feed them one at a time.
If you make permission to breastfeed in public
conditional, no matter how noble your reasons, you will give
women worry ("Am I showing too much?" "Is it all right
here?"), and give ammunition to those who just don't like
breastfeeding. ("I was offended." "She didn't need to show
that much.")
Breastfeeding is too important for mother and child to
allow our sensitivities to interfere. I am working to make
breastfeeding a normal and unexceptional
experience, and I live in hope that we will reach the stage
where no mother will keep bottles and abm in the house for
trips out in case she offends anyone by breastfeeding her
baby.
We are adults. Surely we can put the children's needs and
rights first.
And if we all went out and were so discreet, then no one
would know what we were doing, and if no one ever sees
breastfeeding, how can it ever be normal?
PART III: Breastfeeders' Revenge (or, Tit for
Tat)
Sorry, just couldn't stop myself from using that title.
As I said in PART I, last year I was asked not to nurse my
one and a half year old son in one of the city swimming
pools in Edmonton, Alberta. In short order after my
"incident" at the city pool, I found that many other women
breastfeeding their children had been asked to stop nursing
or exit the swimming pool. The pool administration also
admitted to me that women breastfeeding were asked to cover
up or move to the change room if another patron complained.
This in a location where scantily clad young women are the
norm!
Thinking she would shock me into agreeing with their
position, the lifeguard also told me, "Do you know there was
a lady breastfeeding a five year old here last week?!!" Of
course my response was, "So?"
What ensued was the formation of a breastfeeding advocacy
"committee" and the submission of a 38-page report
(containing 106 footnotes and many more references; about
half of it in appendices) by the committee to the City of
Edmonton. This report outlined the problem as we saw it and
looked at the issue from a number of different perspectives,
including the nursing mother's, the baby's, and a lactation
consultant's---as well as the legal and cultural
perspectives. It also contained information from a number of
different sources, including the Red Cross, the YMCA, the
American Academy of Pediatrics, and the CDC, on swimming
safety and infection control issues (yes, the "breastmilk
fouling the pool" thing is bogus). This was followed by a
complete capitulation on the city's part.
In a three-page letter (which my husband calls the Terms
of Surrender), the city revoked their written policy
regarding breastfeeding. The first part of the city policy
had called for absolutely no breastfeeding in the water and
cited concerns for the child's health if she ingested pool
water. The second part outlined a procedure for dealing with
complaints from patrons about women breastfeeding on the
pool deck. The procedure entailed suggesting to the woman
nursing that she cover up and that she might want to go to
the changing room to finish feeding.
The city's response to our report made it clear that
breastfeeding could occur without restriction in these
facilities, and that any complaints received from patrons
would be resolved without approaching the nursing woman.
Needless to say we were very pleased, and our new group went
on to have a very successful World Breastfeeding Week event,
including a nurse-in at city hall, which was well covered by
local media.
All seemed well until this spring, when I received a call
from a woman who had just been told to exit one of the YMCA
pools in the city while breastfeeding her daughter. Among a
number of specious reasons she was given for this request
were that her breastmilk might contaminate the pool and she
wasn't properly supervising her five year old while
breastfeeding her other daughter.
A female staff member also told her that other women had
the decency to breastfeed discreetly---there's that word
again---and that she could use the facilities if she kept in
mind that other people might be offended if she was "not
covering herself properly." In the mom's words, she refused
to agree to "shroud" herself and informed the staff member
that it was inappropriate for her to ask her to do so.
Hooray for uppity women!
Members of our committee and this woman met with the YMCA
CEO, who apologized for the incident and reassured us that
it would not happen again. He would not put a new policy in
writing, unfortunately. However, Tuesday, July 9th we held a
press conference at city hall, in which we congratulated
both the city and the YMCA for their progressive (new)
policies welcoming breastfeeding women and their families to
their facilities.
The event was well attended by the media. Lots of
breastfeeding moms and their families were featured
prominently with voice-overs by news readers, including a
shot of one of our committee members with her six month old
twins in a double sling, one of them nursing at the time.
With this kind of attention, we are hoping mothers will be
emboldened and pool staff more, shall I say,
discreet, in the future.
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